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		<title>By: Monica Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.monicahelms.com/blog/enda/and-the-big-question-for-senator-obama-is.htm/comment-page-1#comment-849</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And with all due  respect Nancy, lhow about you answer this question for me..

How does leaving out the people who it has been documented to need the civil rights coverage far worse than straight acting GLB males and females, and who are facing the brunt of discrimination and violence advance the cause of GLBT rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with all due  respect Nancy, lhow about you answer this question for me..</p>
<p>How does leaving out the people who it has been documented to need the civil rights coverage far worse than straight acting GLB males and females, and who are facing the brunt of discrimination and violence advance the cause of GLBT rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Nangeroni</title>
		<link>http://www.monicahelms.com/blog/enda/and-the-big-question-for-senator-obama-is.htm/comment-page-1#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Nangeroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela,

With all due respect, how would denying protections to some GLB people advance the cause of transgender rights?  And what does insisting on this stance say about our ability to collaborate with others - including the ability to make strategic compromises where necessary, in order to move forward?  

-Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela,</p>
<p>With all due respect, how would denying protections to some GLB people advance the cause of transgender rights?  And what does insisting on this stance say about our ability to collaborate with others &#8211; including the ability to make strategic compromises where necessary, in order to move forward?  </p>
<p>-Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to the question &quot;Senator Obama, would you veto an exclusive version of the Employment Non Discrimination Act if it did not include employment protections for transgender people?&quot;, you said: &quot;If the answer is anything but &#039;Yes,&#039; I will take my vote on November and either find someone else to vote for, or just sit this one out and encourage everyone to do the same until people come to realize that this makes common sense.&quot;

I think it is common sense to fight tooth-and-nail for a bill that covers gender identity and gender expression, but I don&#039;t think the decision on veto or not is nearly as straightforward.  It&#039;s a hard decision between immediately granting equal rights for some people vs. delaying those equal rights, for a potentially indeterminate period of time, on the hope that you can get equal rights for more people.

Imagine if last year&#039;s ENDA debacle had NOT occurred in an environment where it was a symbolic measure sure to be vetoed.  Would it have made sense to campaign against the non-inclusive ENDA?  Would United ENDA have even come to be?

As a trans person, I have a lot at stake here.  I fought for inclusion last year, and I&#039;ll fight for inclusion when the next version on ENDA comes about.  And I fully realize that if a non-inclusive ENDA becomes law, employment non-discrimination for me may will not arrive in my lifetime.   But I don&#039;t think that vetoing a non-inclusive ENDA is &quot;common sense&quot;; it&#039;s a really tough decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to the question &#8220;Senator Obama, would you veto an exclusive version of the Employment Non Discrimination Act if it did not include employment protections for transgender people?&#8221;, you said: &#8220;If the answer is anything but &#8216;Yes,&#8217; I will take my vote on November and either find someone else to vote for, or just sit this one out and encourage everyone to do the same until people come to realize that this makes common sense.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it is common sense to fight tooth-and-nail for a bill that covers gender identity and gender expression, but I don&#8217;t think the decision on veto or not is nearly as straightforward.  It&#8217;s a hard decision between immediately granting equal rights for some people vs. delaying those equal rights, for a potentially indeterminate period of time, on the hope that you can get equal rights for more people.</p>
<p>Imagine if last year&#8217;s ENDA debacle had NOT occurred in an environment where it was a symbolic measure sure to be vetoed.  Would it have made sense to campaign against the non-inclusive ENDA?  Would United ENDA have even come to be?</p>
<p>As a trans person, I have a lot at stake here.  I fought for inclusion last year, and I&#8217;ll fight for inclusion when the next version on ENDA comes about.  And I fully realize that if a non-inclusive ENDA becomes law, employment non-discrimination for me may will not arrive in my lifetime.   But I don&#8217;t think that vetoing a non-inclusive ENDA is &#8220;common sense&#8221;; it&#8217;s a really tough decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breath-holding is contra-indicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breath-holding is contra-indicated.</p>
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