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	<title>Comments on: Boost Mobile’s Education on Trans Issues</title>
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		<title>By: IcerieCorne</title>
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		<dc:creator>IcerieCorne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet blog. I never know what I am going to come across next. I think you should do more posting as you have some pretty intelligent stuff to say.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet blog. I never know what I am going to come across next. I think you should do more posting as you have some pretty intelligent stuff to say.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be watching you <a title="roulette strategy" href="http://www.roulettesniper.com" rel="nofollow">.</a> <a title="blackjack strategy" href="http://www.blackjacksniper.com" rel="nofollow"> <img src='http://www.monicahelms.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </a></p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got to be kidding me. Everybody&#039;s gotta be a victim. I&#039;m tired of people being offended at every little thing. I don&#039;t care any more if I&#039;m PC, I just don&#039;t care. It&#039;s too much work to live your life constantly fretting over trying not to hurt people&#039;s feelings. It&#039;s out of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to be kidding me. Everybody&#8217;s gotta be a victim. I&#8217;m tired of people being offended at every little thing. I don&#8217;t care any more if I&#8217;m PC, I just don&#8217;t care. It&#8217;s too much work to live your life constantly fretting over trying not to hurt people&#8217;s feelings. It&#8217;s out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Nancy and Tina said.

I particularly liked the part in the behind-the-scenes video where she was signing the guy&#039;s &quot;moobs&quot;. They did have nice racks. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Nancy and Tina said.</p>
<p>I particularly liked the part in the behind-the-scenes video where she was signing the guy&#8217;s &#8220;moobs&#8221;. They did have nice racks. <img src='http://www.monicahelms.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the ad on tv (it may have been a Hulu spot, I can&#039;t remember my original viewing context) and I have to say, I have mixed feelings about it.  Although other commenters argue that the ad is humorous because the pit crew is wearing the wrong clothes for the job, I totally disagree that that is where the average U.S. citizen would find the humor.  I think the humor for the average viewer comes from the portrayal of masculine men wearing female clothing.  I don&#039;t think the men were meant to represent either drag queens or transsexuals, considering the overt showing of body hair, but clearly they are meant to look foolish.  I think you are right that the potential damaging message sent to the average viewer is &quot;this is what a transwoman would look like in real life&quot; when that isn&#039;t the case at all.  I also question the use of the tag line, &quot;You think this is wrong?&quot;  Yes, I know that the following lines say that it&#039;s just &quot;teamwork,&quot; but for some reason, I still don&#039;t feel comfortable with the dialogue.  

I applaud your efforts in educating your company.  I would like to read a follow-up post in your blog as to the outcome of your talks with PR and the other execs involved.  I know you said they won&#039;t pull the commercial, but I am interested in knowing whether or not they intend to do something positive for the trans community.  I think a positive outcome of this event could be to improve the company internally, such as:  Protecting trans employee rights, including trans education in HR diversity workshops/sexual harassment seminars and/or taking steps to support trans medical treatment in employer-sponsored healthcare coverage.

Good luck to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the ad on tv (it may have been a Hulu spot, I can&#8217;t remember my original viewing context) and I have to say, I have mixed feelings about it.  Although other commenters argue that the ad is humorous because the pit crew is wearing the wrong clothes for the job, I totally disagree that that is where the average U.S. citizen would find the humor.  I think the humor for the average viewer comes from the portrayal of masculine men wearing female clothing.  I don&#8217;t think the men were meant to represent either drag queens or transsexuals, considering the overt showing of body hair, but clearly they are meant to look foolish.  I think you are right that the potential damaging message sent to the average viewer is &#8220;this is what a transwoman would look like in real life&#8221; when that isn&#8217;t the case at all.  I also question the use of the tag line, &#8220;You think this is wrong?&#8221;  Yes, I know that the following lines say that it&#8217;s just &#8220;teamwork,&#8221; but for some reason, I still don&#8217;t feel comfortable with the dialogue.  </p>
<p>I applaud your efforts in educating your company.  I would like to read a follow-up post in your blog as to the outcome of your talks with PR and the other execs involved.  I know you said they won&#8217;t pull the commercial, but I am interested in knowing whether or not they intend to do something positive for the trans community.  I think a positive outcome of this event could be to improve the company internally, such as:  Protecting trans employee rights, including trans education in HR diversity workshops/sexual harassment seminars and/or taking steps to support trans medical treatment in employer-sponsored healthcare coverage.</p>
<p>Good luck to you!</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sorry, should have read &quot;not the least bit transphobic.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sorry, should have read &#8220;not the least bit transphobic.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the use of the word &quot;wrong&quot; that bothers me.  

Having said that, I think it&#039;s the least bit transphobic. It is, however, totally sexist.  The only female Nascar racer has a pit crew that wears high heels! And skirts! HILARIOUS! (not.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the use of the word &#8220;wrong&#8221; that bothers me.  </p>
<p>Having said that, I think it&#8217;s the least bit transphobic. It is, however, totally sexist.  The only female Nascar racer has a pit crew that wears high heels! And skirts! HILARIOUS! (not.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with the idea of educating people on sensitivity when using images of gender incongruity in advertising, but I think it is fair to challenge the notion that this ad &quot;uses men in women’s clothes in a negative context&quot;...

While it may look silly, it wouldn&#039;t be any less silly for an all female pit crew to attempt to do their job while wearing heels and miniskirts.

The crew  never once acts effeminate or in manner that stereotypes or mocks anyone; they are all guy, just wearing incongruous clothing.

They perform their duties well even with the added hindrance of completely inappropriate attire for the job at hand, and Danica directly challenges the idea that anything in the picture is &quot;wrong&quot;...

that response could just as easily be based on the crew wearing the &quot;wrong&quot; clothing for the job as it might be based on some bigoted attitude towards any expression of gender variance; that is left totally up to interpretation.

If anything, the &quot;it&#039;s just teamwork&quot; line affirms what is going on as something positive- people working together as a team towards a common goal regardless of who they are and what they are wearing....

*that* notion more than anything else is going to be seen by bigots as something negative, and an attempt to indoctrinate the little children by presenting the perverted transgender lifestyle as normal, blah blah blah.

Sorry but I&#039;m with Nancy on this one, and with all due respect I think that automatically seeing it as &quot;negative&quot; in regards to gender variant people says more about the person making that perception than the ad itself...

anyone who pays attention to this stuff knows that even the most sensitive and pertinent coverage of real transpeople&#039;s lives and issues in the media is used by some as an opportunity to say, “You see! If you give rights to transgender people, we’ll see men dressed like this all over the place! Hell, we’ll even see men dressed like this teaching our children!”...

it is sad that the mere possibility of one of these idiots doing so based on this ad using some extremely tortured logic would be seen as a good reason to abolish any and all depictions of male crossdressing in a humorous context...

which brings up another point:

Why is this ad automatically negative, but  Ellen DeGeneres dancing spastically in a man&#039;s sport coat and tie for laughs isn&#039;t treated as equally offensive and negative towards FtoM&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with the idea of educating people on sensitivity when using images of gender incongruity in advertising, but I think it is fair to challenge the notion that this ad &#8220;uses men in women’s clothes in a negative context&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>While it may look silly, it wouldn&#8217;t be any less silly for an all female pit crew to attempt to do their job while wearing heels and miniskirts.</p>
<p>The crew  never once acts effeminate or in manner that stereotypes or mocks anyone; they are all guy, just wearing incongruous clothing.</p>
<p>They perform their duties well even with the added hindrance of completely inappropriate attire for the job at hand, and Danica directly challenges the idea that anything in the picture is &#8220;wrong&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>that response could just as easily be based on the crew wearing the &#8220;wrong&#8221; clothing for the job as it might be based on some bigoted attitude towards any expression of gender variance; that is left totally up to interpretation.</p>
<p>If anything, the &#8220;it&#8217;s just teamwork&#8221; line affirms what is going on as something positive- people working together as a team towards a common goal regardless of who they are and what they are wearing&#8230;.</p>
<p>*that* notion more than anything else is going to be seen by bigots as something negative, and an attempt to indoctrinate the little children by presenting the perverted transgender lifestyle as normal, blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Sorry but I&#8217;m with Nancy on this one, and with all due respect I think that automatically seeing it as &#8220;negative&#8221; in regards to gender variant people says more about the person making that perception than the ad itself&#8230;</p>
<p>anyone who pays attention to this stuff knows that even the most sensitive and pertinent coverage of real transpeople&#8217;s lives and issues in the media is used by some as an opportunity to say, “You see! If you give rights to transgender people, we’ll see men dressed like this all over the place! Hell, we’ll even see men dressed like this teaching our children!”&#8230;</p>
<p>it is sad that the mere possibility of one of these idiots doing so based on this ad using some extremely tortured logic would be seen as a good reason to abolish any and all depictions of male crossdressing in a humorous context&#8230;</p>
<p>which brings up another point:</p>
<p>Why is this ad automatically negative, but  Ellen DeGeneres dancing spastically in a man&#8217;s sport coat and tie for laughs isn&#8217;t treated as equally offensive and negative towards FtoM&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As you can see, this commercial just looks plane dumb on the visual level...&quot;

Vocabulary failure! Eject! Eject!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As you can see, this commercial just looks plane dumb on the visual level&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Vocabulary failure! Eject! Eject!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me ignorant, but when I saw the commercial I laughed. Not because I have a thing against transgendered people. That was the farthest thing from my mind. 

I laughed because, yes, wearing high heels and skimpy clothing is wrong if you&#039;re on a pit crew. Not so much because you&#039;re a man but because you have to put on and take off tires and fill a gas tank in less than 13 seconds. Maybe if they had more practice they could do it, but something tells me the heels would be a deterrent. And skimpy clothing would be dangerous since you&#039;re working around heavy machinery that gets very hot.

But perception is greater than reality and I really can&#039;t argue against someone who perceives a slight against a community they feel strongly about.

I just personally think this is thinking too much about the commercial. But I agree that the poster did a wonderful job using the event as an opportunity to educate. Regardless of what your cause is, educating people is more important than just shouting at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me ignorant, but when I saw the commercial I laughed. Not because I have a thing against transgendered people. That was the farthest thing from my mind. </p>
<p>I laughed because, yes, wearing high heels and skimpy clothing is wrong if you&#8217;re on a pit crew. Not so much because you&#8217;re a man but because you have to put on and take off tires and fill a gas tank in less than 13 seconds. Maybe if they had more practice they could do it, but something tells me the heels would be a deterrent. And skimpy clothing would be dangerous since you&#8217;re working around heavy machinery that gets very hot.</p>
<p>But perception is greater than reality and I really can&#8217;t argue against someone who perceives a slight against a community they feel strongly about.</p>
<p>I just personally think this is thinking too much about the commercial. But I agree that the poster did a wonderful job using the event as an opportunity to educate. Regardless of what your cause is, educating people is more important than just shouting at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Juro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Juro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As tempted as I am to agree with Nancy, I can&#039;t. It&#039;s not the silly-looking hairy men in women&#039;s clothes part as much as the &quot;Think that&#039;s wrong?&quot; part. The humor of the commercial is based on the assumption that crossdressing is freakish and wrong. 

That&#039;s the real problem as I see it. Not the joke itself, but it&#039;s underpinnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As tempted as I am to agree with Nancy, I can&#8217;t. It&#8217;s not the silly-looking hairy men in women&#8217;s clothes part as much as the &#8220;Think that&#8217;s wrong?&#8221; part. The humor of the commercial is based on the assumption that crossdressing is freakish and wrong. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the real problem as I see it. Not the joke itself, but it&#8217;s underpinnings.</p>
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